I was just looking through sites to find more material for lyrics and I followed some links,as you do...And I ended up a Destiny Church.I was greeted with a nice clean web site and a hansome smiling face....



So I though'Fuck the hype I'll have a read and see what I find out
"from the horses mouth"' as they say.

http://www.destinychurch.org.nz


From the word go its pretty heavy stuff,no shying away from self assured Rightousness
So I stopped and though what did my Mother teach me about different Sects in the Christian church(She is a Christian and a pastor of a church) I and though yeh apostolic..of the apostles...so I though I better see if Thety're view was in line with other Apostolic views.My God I found some very hairy sites..one scary one includes

http://www.theapostoliccampaign.com/
You can't get far without logging in but you would not want to theres a weird feeling around that site (without going all hippy!)
I ended up at a Church planting site wanting people to start new churches but a new kind of church, no expensive building or paid staff...real community type stuff with reference to Ok a liitle 'a'.So there are more than one type of apostolic?I was getting confused!So I sent them an E-mail ..no answer yet.
So I went back to D.C. read about Tamaki's wife who it is written okay dokey.Sounds a bit Medieval but each to there own.(note there are Destiny Churchs in the UK but I've found no link between them yet...maybe we could get abit of sueing over names started:twisted:)

So anyway I was looking at the nice D.C. site when looking around I noticed
Proton Health and Fitness run by Pastors with"COMPETITIVE RATES & FREE PARKING" and i thought what this is under ministries!I looked abit deeper and I'm sure to hell they're are building there own state!They got welfare things , they'll find you accomidation even help you get on your feet when you hop out of jail.BUT if your gay....lookout.
BUT this dude keeps his political things on little dirty run down sites!
Enough is Engough for example

http://www.enough.org.nz/vision.htm

on this site it quotes Peter Dunn saying he supported the civillunion bill..Peter Dunn!Now if He can support it but these dudes cant(E.I.E. states they are not affiliated with D.C.) theres something seriously wrong in there heads!! ... they then go on to say how Helen Clarke brang in the Seabed and Foreshore bill bla bla which is true.We all know she perverted the course of justice or what ever for the Maori BUT what the FUCK does that have to do with Gay and Lesbians being allowed to commit them selves to each other?They go on about crime stats and stuff 'cos there against crime(duh who ain't) but they somehow find that CivilUnions will break down the moral fibre of NZ's children.Hmmmm.Are they deluded

I can't for the life of me find a link off this site though.If this is such a strong issue surrly they have friends.Not even to Destiny Church which is weird because thats more money opportunitys for our friend Brian!!Then it clicked.Who is behind Enough is Enough?Brian Tamaki is the poster boy but who else is putting the money in?or was it a one off thing for the march?ahhh yes it was!Theres no other news or updates on the site since.So its gotta just be him.Now...if he runs the whole show who runs D.C.
Because if you have a look he is now Bishop.Yes...FUCKING BISHOP!!!How the hell did that happen.Pastor to Bishop?Hmmm.
On the latest march he's shrugged off the E.I.E. banner. In the Auckland
march you may have heard about,but not much.If he'd been saying no to interacial marriges the press would be allover it, but not really for saying what he is at the moment.Such as Enough of this liberal behaviour!Who has ?What fuckin liberal behaviour.its not liberal enough if theres dicusions over homosexuals civil rights!! What the hell is wrong with this guy?And then I found this which scarily sums it all up
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?c_i ... D=10114613

READ IT.If you like your country and hate the states read it.Its also some stuff they never told me in school about NZ and the history of right wing fanatics.
I just hope he keeps on at National.That at least splits the Right in like 4 pieces at the moment :)

If you've got any sites/links for me to find out more of this Fascist movent rising please post it and/or PM me cos they're springing up every where!!


yip 19 and climbing.The Bible belt of the south Pacific.Oh God no!!



EDIT after posting I find the rest of his crap.Each new march seems to be under a new political party/organization name

http://www.legacy.org.nz
Saying they had the support of many other churchs...City Impact Church,Christian Life Center Auckland.

Now City Impact are fucking crazy..perhaps worse than Tamaki .They believe Democratic values and Freedom of speach is being infringed upon because they are being accussed of Hate Speak and that the Homosexual law reform bill was passed even though they had a pition of 800,000 signatures.
Didn't know we had so many fucking moronic people living in this country.I new there was a few.What about Human Rights you bloody fuck heads..

Their 'church' in NP is just down the road from our Practise rooms. We're waiting for a protest march against us for being dirty, Satanic, Heathen, Noisy types.

It's all part of a Fudamentalist/Right leaning drive that appears to be happening around the world. Sheesh, people should just think for themselves. Fucking sheep!

Brians the top man so I guess he made himself Bishop. Next stop, Pope of New Zealand and Pacifica!

Are you expecting a lynch mob with burning torches and anti-good music placards...... maybe a march should be organized against them like a pre-emptive strike of sorts...but with bags of shit and dirty condoms used for anal sex and hiff them all over their cars while their in church ( and then run away real quick!)But I would NEVER suggest such a henous act of self presevation and freedom of speach against a cancer that is threatening the way of life for many of our countries most talented and intelligent people.NEVER.......But it is fun to imagine.If I did something like that though it would be typical of me to get caugh...especially after writing this

hahaha....what ever happen to "Donot Judge Others". That is all they seem to do, in the name of political rights...Why discriminate?...What point are they trying to make....I was listening to control one day and they were saying that some president from some country gave him a harley and he got a million something a rather diamond ring...talk about material hourder...Is this Mr Tamaki bringing good faith or just cultural upheavel, trying to turn the world into corporate robots, living under "There Gods" Moral values, laws....wheres the fun in that, thats not living, thats abiding...how sad really....But i suppose some people need a faith to feel whole to have a purpose...Why dont they just believe in themselves.... ..hehe..

I don't mind people having faith as Milly_Shilly said , as long as they've got it not me and they don't try n change that....oh and don't try to fuck the country up at the same time!!

Oh yeah, A gift of motorbikes and jewels....Which country?Is he getting heaps of influence in the Islands or something?
Is he the Brother or cousin of those other Tamakis or whatever who ride bikes on some old TV show?They look the same.

I think the Tamaki's are like a rich fuck family

I watched the Destiny episode this morning. It's out of it seeing him manipulate the congregation and them nodding their heads at the end of each sentance. I wouldn't mind them if they just kept to themselves, but when they try impose their beleifs on me thru TeeVee, newspapers, marches etc and you can see that if they had their way I wouldn't be able to play what I want, hang out with whom I want, smoke what the fuckever I want then you gotta do something about it.

Even if it is just pooping in a bag and lighting it while ringing the doorbell...

I dont think if you see something on the telly, in the news paper or marching down the street, is imposing beliefs on someone. YOU have a choice to turn away and not watch what is going on. Is that simply not the freedom of speech, not unlike what alot of lets say ACTIVIST groups (for lack of better words) do to let people know their opinion? not dissimilar at all in my opinion. Knocking on your door, preaching to you and trying to convert you to their way of thinking on the other hand simply aint on lol.

Did you guys realise that they don't have any public holidays here for easter? I thought this was a godly type country. Well I guess it really is, but when the Irish came, and the catholic church, they imposed some rlaw to divide between church and state. I know I didn't get the words right but gives you some idea. The first weekend I was here, I was hassled by Mormans at the door. I thought here we go, but thankfully I have not come accross anything like that since. That Tamaki guy is just a wanker really...... He has ripped off his culture to make money, now he is ripping off vulnerable peoples gulibility.

I cant find the silly article that shows all his assets such as a house boat and a harley and so forth...Its rather interesting though to see all the assets he owns, free hold even, now that is impressive for someone who is so into his saving the world and so forth, if i was a fucken church leader, which hell, i never ever would be, i would own nothing and give my all, and he just does not cut it...his use of tonial structure and posture captures the audience in the same way hitler caught the attention of his...His defiance in the eyes, his dependancy of thought in the point of i quote "Men should be the leaders and the women our supporters" unquote...i donot understand that unless he keeps his wife as a slave...eveyone supports each other no man should be above a women but thats another debate for another day....when its raining...anyway...hes just using his power of knowlegde, using the hopeless and defenseless, prying on young children and not letting any of them think for themselves, choose their own paths, he makes it for them,....what ever happen to discovery, experience...thats why alot of people cannot handle life, because some other bastard has said this is how you should live your life, they have let someone else think for them and not followed there heart or discovered the world through their own minds...oh im just talking shit, but Mr Tamaki, if your reading this, let me say now, stop brainwashing the counrty to be something from your idealistic imagination, your filth and your taking away the gift to experience life...haha, like he would read this...maybe he would..oh and fuck you....haha...okay, im going to crawl under my desk and have a sleep now,....my fingers are sore, from typing, cause i know someone would quote me one that and ask why they are...HA....

He is one of those harley riding fucks that got rich off tourism and Maori culture out of the Rotorua district. Authentic Marae??? Authentic Hangi??? Like fuck..... one word.... WANKER.... fuck I love that word, comes off the tongue so well...... WANKER...... go on, you try it, look at his pic and say it.... WANKER.....

I feel better already.......

So do you guys feel threatened by his religious parade? Do you really think that most New Zealanders are really like sheep and will follow his lead?

Yes...I do...most are sheep, threatened, not at all, something to fill my time with intersting philosophical debate about one person who believes a nation is dipped in sin, really, sin could never be eliminated and why should we listen to one man who says live my rules and laws and you will go to this place you have never seen before and be structured and you will be freed, freed from what, life, fun,. living, enjoying, they take away the simple loves, the simple fun, the euphoric fun, life is general is conformed, alot as if an army of do gooders, well every do gooder needs lots of bad dooers to do all the dirty work for them to be able to free this, okay im gonna stop, im just waffling shit cause i had a smoke and my chair is really comfy and i just cant stop typing really... ....Lots of Chief and a fucken billion little indians...they all wish for there equality and guidance into this eternal life of love and foreverness which is so called "Heaven" they will be freed of light will shed on there soul....and then what......Its all bullshit..religion is a cock up to make us believe in something rather than the power within ourselves and mother earth...or something like that anyway...i dont know lol...

[quote=...so called "Heaven"...[/quote]
were you meaning Here and now heaven or spiritual 'I'm dead and I've gone to heaven' cos the church has been ling...Even my mother admits that.Can you find where in the bible it says you'll go to heaven.In Judaeisim you go to Sheol...abit like Purgatory...somewhere in the bible it says Heaven is reserved for God and His Angels.NOT for Human WANNA BE Gods Boy are they gonna be red faced.....

Oh wow, okay i never thought of that....So they are making a promise they could never keep although it is man promising the promise of heaven not actually god he has stated that you will not go to heaven then, that its for God and whoever he wants...well Gods a racist then, what a racist hahaha....i will take a claim on my piece of heaven, what about the consumer guarentees act...huh, huh...lol...

theres some out of it writings on the subject...I haven't had alook on the net yet,I should though.They recon it maybe spklit like a jail like min,med.,and max areas where you do your penence for enternity....rat shit

oh okay, I know in Catholicism they believe you go to this place in the middle its like a hell before hell, and then you do some time and then go on to the next level, the real hell or whatever, im not really going to worry about it all cause then i will forget to live but i have to admit i do wonder what will happen when i die and cause i definitely am a sinner if it goes by the ten commandments...we probably go nowhere and maggots eat us up and thats it...